Among the people I met in the Berkeley Anarchist Study Group (aka BASTARD) are people I should have met more generally. I’m referring to the reading group this way because I have found that in the last 20 years the number of places where you might meet an (anarchist) interesting person has shrank dramatically. Luckily 10 years ago I was at the reading group. Maybe I’m not giving the hardcore/metal scene enough credit but there seems to be slim pickings anytime I dip into that world nowadays. Carrie (the interview subject of this episode) is an incredibly interesting person who I never would have met if the circumstances weren’t exactly what they are and I’m sorry for that. I’m sorry Carrie hasn’t been a larger part of my life. Listen to the interview and it’ll be clear why. Late in the interview I talk about a possible experiment around religion and spirituality. Probably we’ll talk about that more as the year goes on.